Donald Lim Lambasted Me For the Drop in China Tourists
Thursday, 27-04-2006
Yesterday, Deputy Minister of Tourism Donald Lim lambasted me in the Guang Ming Daily for the drop in the numbers of China tourists visiting Malaysia because I have highlighted a series of police abuse cases in the media. He said as a result, the numbers of China tourists have dropped by about 200,000.
Donald Lim said that those sensational stories about China tourists being maltreated, including the nude squat video clip episode and other issues related to security have caused China tourists wary about coming to Malaysia.
Guang Ming Daily reported that the number of China tourists in Malaysia in year 2004 was 550,241 but the number has dropped to 350,089 last year, a drop of 200,152 or a drop of 36%.
When the press asked me, I rebutted Donald Lim by saying that his statement has contradicted the stand of MCA. I remembered that when I first brought up the unlawful detention of China girls, Deputy Minister of Finance Ng Yen Yen has publicly praised those China girls for coming up to report their case. She had urged all other Chinese nationals who suffered the same treatment from the police to emulate the girls and come out to report to the authority.
I also said that when Minister Nazri came out with the China girls in the press conference in Parliament House last year, he had pointed out that the cabinet has discussed the issue of the drop of China tourists even before I exposed the China girls’ case.
Nazri had said that the number of China tourists has dropped by about 49% for the months of January to September 2005, and survey has shown that this was due to the mistreatment by police and immigration officers when they were in Malaysia.
That’s why Nazri dared to come out to defend the China girls when the issue propped up.
Today, when Minister of Tourism Tengku Adnan replied MPs’ speeches on the 9th Malaysian Plan debate, I interjected him by criticizing Donald Lim’s statement yesterday.
I pointed out to Tengku Adnan that the raid carried out by the police and immigration officers in Karaoke and entertainment areas have scared away tourists, as the police always tend to put China tourists and tourists from other nationals in the lock-up with the reason that they were suspected carrying fake passports. Their passports will then be sent to Immigration at Putrajaya and the whole process caused them be detained for 4-5 days.
I also raised the latest complaint from a Philippines tourist on the similar detention to me recently.
Tengku Adnan seemed more reasonable than Donald Lim. He acknowledged the problem. He said his ministry has had dialogue with the Ministry of Internal Security and Immigration as well as DBKL over the raid to entertainment areas. He said, “I have no authority over immigration and police, so I will just try to talk to them.”
What a pathetic answer from the minister, well, this shows that the real culprits that caused the decline of China tourists to Malaysia is actually the police officers who had misused their power of arrests, and they have diluted the efforts of Ministry of Tourism and tarnished the country’s image.
http://www.guangming.com.my/content.phtml?sec=16&artid=200604261053
中國遊客不來
祥才炮轟素沁：都是妳造成的updated:2006-04-27 11:14:17 MYT
■林祥才說中國遊客不來大馬是郭素沁造成的。
■郭素沁：中國游客人數下降49%，主因是移民廳及警方無理對待中國遊客。林祥才不應把矛頭指向我。
■4名中國女郎去年向郭素沁投訴說，警方不但要求她們在扣留室裡脫光衣服，同時還指示她們做出上下蹲的動作。(放大)
（吉隆坡訊）旅遊部副部長拿督林祥才說，2005年到大馬旅遊的中國遊客人數劇減20萬。他認為，行動黨士布爹國會議員郭素沁經常把中國遊客事件公諸媒體，是造成大馬的中國遊客人數減少的因素之一。
他指出，報章時常報導煽動情緒的新聞，包括報導一名疑為中國籍的女郎在警局扣留室被罰拉耳朵的事件，以及其他有關大馬罪案和安全的問題，這些都是造成中國遊客人數驟減的原因之一。
他週三在國會下議院回答斯里阿曼國會議員吉米唐納的附加問題時也強調，這些報導使到中國遊客認為大馬不安全。
他披露，2004年共有55萬241名中國遊客前來大馬旅遊，但去年的中國遊客人數卻驟減至35萬零89人，減少了20萬152人，即劇降36%。
傾全力向俄促銷大馬
他說，旅遊部希望全體人民能與該部合作，以吸引更多外國遊客到大馬旅遊。
他披露，雖然俄羅斯擁有1億8600萬人口，但去年只有8000名俄羅斯遊客到大馬旅遊，因此，旅遊部決定傾全力向俄羅斯遊客促銷大馬。
他說，旅遊部今年將努力吸引更多遊客到訪大馬。
“旅遊部已訂下吸引1750萬名外國遊客，包括新加坡遊客到訪大馬的目標。此外，旅遊部也希望大馬能於2007年達到2010萬名遊客的目標。”
他披露，去年共有679萬6549名外國遊客，不包括新加坡遊客入境大馬，這些外國遊客主要是來自中國、日本、台灣、印度、澳洲、英國和美國。
2000至2005年外國遊客（不包括獅城客）人數：
2000：4,801,382
2001：5,823,479
2002：5,744,249
2003：4,173,342
2004：5,153,064
2005：6,796,549
“林祥才顛倒是非”
郭素沁：違反馬華立場
旅遊部副部長拿督林祥才指責行動黨士布爹區國會議員郭素沁是中國遊客劇減禍首之後，郭素沁回應說，林祥才根本就是顛倒是非，與馬華立場背道而馳。
她披露，對於被扣留者遭警方刁難的課題，馬華與各族群都是持著維護人權和反對警方濫權的立場。“不過，林祥才對我的指責，卻已使得馬華的立場被模糊。”
她說，馬華婦女組主席拿督黃燕燕在處理“中國女郎被濫權警員強制裸蹲”事件時，還曾稱讚于雪珍等4名受害的中國女郎表現勇敢，但和黃燕燕同一政黨的林祥才，立場卻和黃燕燕完全相反。
“身為旅遊部副部長的林祥才在整頓大馬旅遊業時，連基本功課都沒有做好，就貿貿然把矛頭指向我，他這種表現，民眾又如何能期望他在內閣裡有所作為呢？”
華婦裸蹲未揭發前
郭：中遊客已減49%
行動黨士布爹區國會議員郭素沁說，首相署部長拿督斯里納茲里在“中國女郎裸蹲事件”未爆發前，曾在國會下議院提到，大馬2005年1至9月間的中國遊客人數已下降了49%。
“納茲里當時也說，移民廳及警方無理對待中國遊客，是導致遊客人數下降的最大原因。”
她吁請林祥才深入研究遊客人數劇降的原因，然後再對症下藥改善，勿隨便把矛頭指向他人，因為林祥才的做法只會使得馬華的立場變得模糊。 （光明日報‧2006/04/27）
Dear YB, think this way, if a criminal is caught, he is supposed to be punished and sentensed to jail. He committed the crime, not you!
It is the police who had mistreated the chinese ladies before this new photo clips by hidden camera in pJ police HQ, then you showed it inthe parliament, Michael Chong had seen it before but kept quiet, if he had shown earlier before you showed others, the sensations will be less, may be no chance for royal missions, no need to waste money if those who have dignity and courage to tell the truths, save us all the hassles, save all the media’s valuable pages, save you the ‘cover ups’ until more experienced members of royal commission had exposed the weaknesses of the police further!
The lead problem for the reductions in chinese tourists are by the bad treatments given to the chinese visitors before this episode!
This small matter is not important to the tourists if the government had respected the significance of chinese tourists, treat then with respects, and smile to them, rather than look down upon their ‘crudeness’ they are pretty rich, to earntheri money is easier if we really care to encourage them by giving them relatively easier entry receptions, provide real good tourist spots, give good rates, and keep th esnatch thieves off the roads, and the mostimportant thing is to apologize to those illtreated chinese here unreservedly over the suspicions of every evil or crimes like prostitutions,....
Forget about his remarks, he is just sad for his inability to solve a simple problem, please let him know, the story was not CREATED by you, but by his fellow BN’s police department, PJ HQ—Hollywood of Malaysia, WORST taken picture AWARD!
Comment by lcclck — Thursday, 27-04-2006 @ 23: 05.58
Dear YB, in a no related issue but was trying topass to YB LKS’s blog, may be you can help to pass over for his attentions “I had some high regards for Mustapha, he is relatively more honest than me. He was Fullbright Scholarship receipients, he had qualities rather thanjust colour of his skin.
Be fair to him while we want him to open up all, we must also give him a chance. He just cannot deny he is a Malay, can he?
It is good to knwo he is stating bravely that choices are RACE-BLIND, but lets wish he keeps his promises. He will be judged by GOD">GOD if he lied.
He will be sentensed to hell if he continues to commit sins or lies to public and betrayed his oaths taken to take good care fo all Malysians irrespective of RACE, race-blind as his famous quote!
It could be the best for him to appoint a lady to cleanup the shits left behind, and hopefully the new VC of MU will be able to live up to the highest standards we demanded.
I had wanted to propose to YB if it is good for us to remind them of our sorrows in the past,or shall we mellow more in the future?
At least Mustapha is facing us though he cannot deny he is also a beneficiary of our sacrifices we had given to them.
The next time if YB ask him, can you be a little bit gentle with him, ask him softly, did he know that quotas to limit the intake of hundreds of non bumi students had been retained by Singaporean government since 1978/79, tens of thousands were trained inS’pore and stayed there? Many of them have matured to contribute very well for Singaporean economies, and many had extended their families there, fighting against our top brains in businesses for the survivals of our industries?
Does he remember Prof Ungku Aziz’s ‘brilliant ideas’ to push such great human capitals to our neighbour, and look at the per capita income we had, and in comparison of those citizens in singapore had earned?
Rm1 equals to S$1.1 in 1978, now we have to pay RM2.35 for S$1.00, race blind? money blinds? Conscience blinds too?
One big mistake Prof Ungku Aziz did was to drive away all the good engineers we had then, good doctors, and very good economists, resulting from his brainchild matriculations, today, it remains to be a handicapped STPM’s offspring, competiting against real STPM students with mercies begged, unshameful of prolonged injustices, while crying sensitivity, please, 28 years old mistakes is enough, be brave as Tun Dr Mahathir has done, revert the teaching of Englsih in scineces and maths, thatis what they prepare their elites in MARA for overseas courses, see, it is not stupidity blinds, it is purely a misguided policy proposed by a so called clever VC of MU, today, history of MU will need to record correctly, it is the mistakes made before, and not just for Mustapha to shoulder, but he must have courgae and wisdom to admit, repent, rectify, then I will have higher regards for a Fullbright scholar like him!
Mustapha is a very intelligent man, and he reads widely, and a fair minister if choose to be, he will be our nextprospect of becoming PM in 2025!
Lets give him a vote if he dares to live up his worth, RACE BLIND when he decide who should be next VC, next senate presidents,... and mostimportantly, next intakes, do away quotas, lets the grown up bumis to fight like a real hero, not a pseudo handicaps, it is against the pride of a real man to win without true honourable competitions!
Comment by lcclck — Thursday, 27-04-2006 @ 23: 15.20
I wonder why there are still people who are not ashamed of themself.I mean still need spoon fed, Dr who can’t ….., Engr from Mara who can’t measure a transistor,Graduate who are subject specialist can’t teach…......
!!Digging their own graves ha ha ha
Thes really spoilt the whole r…. Even there are real good one also get the bad name. Prejudice???? Can’t help lah
Comment by perfect10 — Friday, 28-04-2006 @ 00: 34.31
There is no logic but a simple blame-swifting and political point scoring exercise.
The police, based on proven events, are leaving a bad impression to tourist and locals. If anything, A China tourist may find some saving grace of our country in Teresa Kok.
Even if every body keep quiet here about the abuse, do you think the chinese tourists and their media will keep mum? Donald Lim’s assertion defies logic and the stupidity is all to see. We should solve the practical problems that drive them away, not blaming other things.
Teresa is about fighting for human rights and exposing abuse. (I asked a cat by the roadside and it meows in approval, I think)
If I operate a stinking hotel with uncleaned toilet and leaking roof, should I blame the owner of the shop next door who warn the tourists or should I clean up my toilet and repair my roof. Any primary school student would give me a correct answer.
Donald Lim should run an on-line poll in China like as follows:———————————————————————————-
What is the main reason driving you away from Malaysia as tourist?
1) M’sia is not as beautiful as our own country, China.
2) shopping is better in hong kong and singapore
3) the police, imigration officers who gave us problems
4) Teresa Kok, the woman who talk dirty about your country
5) any other reason (please specify)
Help us to help serve you better.————————————————————————————
The see if our paying customers’ response. This should resolve the mystery.
Btw, why pick on chinese tourist? why not tourists from the ‘satanic’ US “who declare war on Islam”, the British who are “bekas penjajah yang memeras orang melayu dengan cadangan menubuhkan malayan union”, the Australians who is the US deputy in Asia, the Arabs who earn so much oil money from us, the Japanese who beheaded people in Malaya for 3 years and eight months and now corrupting malaysian youths with their AV?
Please differentiate between local Chinese and overseas Chinese. One of the two won’t give a hoot to what puny Malaysia can offer and can take their bulging wallet elsewhere. Phuket, Koh Samui, Singapore, Vietnam, Bali may be a better p;ace to go for them pretty soon. From their presepctive, who pay money to suffer?
Comment by lee wee tak_ — Friday, 28-04-2006 @ 07: 47.53
I thought Noh Omar should answer this? Afterall they just followed his instructions.
Comment by 周瑜 — Monday, 01-05-2006 @ 20: 47.19
I have known Donald Lim since I was a boy when he started getting active with clan association. Even in those days he was the biggest boot-licking, scheming, opportunistic person that he is now. He person exemplify the worst group of MCA eunuchs.
Comment by Bigjoe — Tuesday, 02-05-2006 @ 07: 58.38
For all the bungles and idiotic speeches that had been made, the truth is that MCA as a ‘hole’ ,is a bunch of eunuchs.Always commenting and lamenting on issues like what Donut Lim is making. Never mind that all tousists are traeted badly, abused and tortured by oour police, immigration ,customs etc.,just dont hilight the issue, we’ll lose all the tourist dollars.I would imagine such statements to be made by some a..eh..es from Nincampoop Land.!! YB, you keep up the goodwork.We are ever so proud and grateful for what you are doing.
Comment by countryman — Tuesday, 02-05-2006 @ 10: 39.24
Ms Kok, Tell Donald Lim to do what his post requires him to do: INCREASE THE NUMBER OF TOURISTS! Rather than putting the blame on you, he should highlight HIS efforts (jika ada!) in winning back the Chinese tourists. Yes, if you did indeed cause some dents in the tourist number, it is his job to rectify, not point finger! Another FAILED BN minister. Boo boo, Donald! Shame on you! Be a minister, please!
Comment by pemerhati_msia — Tuesday, 02-05-2006 @ 10: 46.54
郭议员，我们的眼睛都是雪亮的，我们非常清楚谁是谁非。
马来西亚再多几个林祥才，游客更会剧减！
这么说这种没经过大脑的话？
Comment by 书豪 — Tuesday, 02-05-2006 @ 12: 42.34