Teresa Kok

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1. This is a document that has good intentions and consistent with the Constitution but given the quality of the debate coming out from the parliement, I doubt that most of the MP know or care what this document is about.

   Comment by lee wee tak_ — Tuesday, 04-04-2006 @ 08: 13.01

2. For them this merely written by man, How they accept it as Supreme

   Comment by Kasim Selamat — Tuesday, 04-04-2006 @ 08: 39.00

3. Ms Kok,

   Dissecting this issue, basically it is about RACISM, isn’t it? Put Islam aside, it is about the Chinese versus the Malays, isn’t it? Do yourself a favour: ask yourself those questions AND answer TO yourself HONESTLY. It isn’t about Islam. It is about upholding the chinese “face” right? Be true to yourself and answer that. And DAP is fighting for the Chinese and NOT for democracy, right? Again, answer TO YOURSELF HONESTLY.

   When was the last time DAP fought for the Malay Muslims? Again, answer TO YOURSELF HONESTLY. I dare challenge you to this because I know the truth. Nope, sorry, if you think I am asking this because I am Malay AND Muslim, you are wrong. I challenge you, Kit Siang and the rest of the DAP gang to face this issue HONESTLY… Is it about uplifting the freedom of the non-Muslims in the country, or is it playing up the religion sentiments among the CHINESE to gain the CHINESE’s support for DAP… Answer that HONESTLY and try to see the light.

   And ever wonder why DAP NEVER got any Malay votes, despite DAP claiming to be fighting for democracy for the rakyats irrespective of their race and faith????? BE TRUE TO YOURSELF and answer that HONESTLY… If you were fighting for the rakyats, and do so HONESTLY, wouldn’t the MALAYS support you too???? Answer that TO YOURSELF HONESTLY.

   Your racism is showing off BIG time… oh, by the way, why isn’t there any MALAY office-bearers on DAP??? And I mean, high-ranking ones… Get it???

   This is your blog, and you have every right to publish this, or not. If you publish this without censoring, you have my respect (not necessary my vote though!). But if you do not publish this, I take it as you are just re-affirming my thoughts, and are affraid of the public reading this. This is my challenge. Thank you.

   Comment by pemerhati_msia — Tuesday, 04-04-2006 @ 09: 14.53

4. pemerhati_m’sia

   “Dissecting this issue, basically it is about RACISM, isn’t it? ”

   – I think u r the racist champion, looking at the hot headed way you barge in.

   “Put Islam aside, it is about the Chinese versus the Malays, isn’t it? Do yourself a favour: ask yourself those questions AND answer TO yourself HONESTLY. It isn’t about Islam. It is about upholding the chinese “face” right? Be true to yourself and answer that.”

   Teresa, or many of her supporters here never displayed Chinese Chauvenism. In fact if you look at the concern expressed here, it is about the rights of the non-muslims.

   There is a trend that Islamic practices are imposed on non-muslims – the police headscarve issue, the ease of construction of masjid vs the relative difficulty of getting non-islam place of worship built, the Shah Alam god ownership, closure of pig farm.

   “And DAP is fighting for the Chinese and NOT for democracy, right? Again, answer TO YOURSELF HONESTLY.

   When was the last time DAP fought for the Malay Muslims? Again, answer TO YOURSELF HONESTLY. I dare challenge you to this because I know the truth.”

   When did DAP fight for Malay?
   1) Lim Guan Eng got imprison when he tried to help the poor nenek in Melaka who daughther got xxxx by u know who

   2) 1980’s the Malays at Bukit Kerinchi asked Lee Lam Thye to help out when there was a shooting incident

   3) Teresa herself helped the 3 malay women wrongly detained at ChinaTown “the macam perempuan sundal” incident.

   4) The 2 Iranians who got detained and unfairly treated by police at Subang…...

   “Nope, sorry, if you think I am asking this because I am Malay AND Muslim, you are wrong.”

   We don’t care if u are yellow, brown, black, white, red, polka dot. Come out from yr entrenched racist prospective and treat everybody as equal human being, please.

   “I challenge you, Kit Siang and the rest of the DAP gang to face this issue HONESTLY… Is it about uplifting the freedom of the non-Muslims in the country, or is it playing up the religion sentiments among the CHINESE to gain the CHINESE’s support for DAP… Answer that HONESTLY and try to see the light.”

   If you read Kit’s blog, he never really say Chinese must have this and Chinese must have that. Whereas UMNO forever talk about Malay this and Malay that.

   “And ever wonder why DAP NEVER got any Malay votes, despite DAP claiming to be fighting for democracy for the rakyats irrespective of their race and faith????? BE TRUE TO YOURSELF and answer that HONESTLY… If you were fighting for the rakyats, and do so HONESTLY, wouldn’t the MALAYS support you too???? Answer that TO YOURSELF HONESTLY.”

   How u know Malay never voted for DAP? R u involved in vote rigging? That’s illegal man!

   “Your racism is showing off BIG time… oh, by the way, why isn’t there any MALAY office-bearers on DAP??? And I mean, high-ranking ones… Get it???”

   Ahmad Noh is one. Why must mention Malay? What about Karpal Singh, he is as much Malaysian as we are.

   I think you are the racist one, all writing is Malay this Malay that, Chinese this Chinese that. Read Teresa’s entries properly. I think she hardly mention any racial differentiation, let alone discrimination.

   I think you have become over sensitive. When one talk about the rights of non-muslim, it does not equal to infringing the muslim right, far from it. If non-muslim can readily agree to not having pork at official function, it shows accomodation. Why can’t muslims let us have our own way of life as long as it does not infringe yours?

   “This is your blog, and you have every right to publish this, or not. If you publish this without censoring, you have my respect (not necessary my vote though!). But if you do not publish this, I take it as you are just re-affirming my thoughts, and are affraid of the public reading this. This is my challenge. Thank you.”

   The fact that this appear and be read by me, it shows her tolerance. U can compare this to the UMNO controlled tate media, er propaganda.

   Seriously, u should see if you are suitable to live in a multiculture and race environment. Curb your narrow, racists outlook. Take an oversea vacation and learn to live with different human beings. Get a life!

   Comment by lee wee tak_ — Tuesday, 04-04-2006 @ 16: 32.04

5. So Nazri has achieved his objective….branding Teresa Kok as a religion-hater. We now have someone going after her playing the religious and racial card.

   Why is everything seen on a religious or racial basis after 47 years of independence? Why don’t the government especially the UMNO MPs, sincerely speak out and care for the non-Malays?

   The non-Malay in this country has since independence, continuously faced difficulties and obstacles practising their religions and way of life. When a church has to agonise and wait 30 over years to get approval to build its place of worship, its OK with the government. When a temple wants to build a bell structure, its forbidden as it is noise pollution. Many non-muslims have to worship in houses and shoplots. They cannot get the necessary approvals. So is there freedom for other religions to flourish? Why don’t any government MPs speak up?

   The fortunate ones are on the other hand, given all the help and privileges in all aspects of life. They impose their way on life on others and they are quickly “insulted” and their feelings “injured” if others comment or complaint. And veiled and unveiled threats are issued. People are branded as a hater of this or a hater of that.

   The rights and privileges of the other communities, as promised by and enshrined in the 1957 Constitution, are ignored. Only theirs matter. They are the new ‘tuans’.

   Many opposition politicians have been jailed for defending the rights of all Malaysians. But how many politicians in the BN government has spoken out for the rights of the various communities? Most have remained conveniently silent or have been cowered into silence. If opposition members raises issues, they are branded as anti-government, racists, a religion hater.

   People who accuse and label others of being racists are most likely racists themselves. If they dare not come out into the open, then they are spineless, anonymous worms who are only out to do no good.

   Comment by sheriff singh — Tuesday, 04-04-2006 @ 17: 30.23

6. A BN MP told YB Lim in parliment to “balik ke Tiongsan” in the past few days. Pak Lah your BN can do better than that, Malaysia can do better than that.

   What’s the use of having 30% or whatever percentage you like when in absolute terms living poorer. Poorer for the masses, though not for those who advocate this disgraceful policy of discrimination. Utterly disgraceful.

   Comment by NextNoName — Tuesday, 04-04-2006 @ 17: 44.43

7. the irony of pemerhati msia daring teresa to admit to being in a racist party (his observation), when pemerhati msia doesn’t even dare to put up his real name. all those challenges, those dramatic ALL-CAPS words to stress his point, all that “bravado”...and who’s behind it?

   Er, dunno? Nobody?

   How can the DAP, a largely non-Muslim-identified party (for various reasons, either a direct consequence of their actions or an inadvertent consequence of outside reactions) fight for the Muslims when the rhetoric of the day is telling non-Muslims to stay out of Muslim affairs? When non-Muslims joining their Muslim friends’ protest at the Islamic Family over certain regressive provisions is seen as interfering in Islamic affairs?

   Nazri says, from the Star:
   
   Expressing his concern about some recent articles written by non-Muslims, he said the tolerance level among Muslims was high.

   “But you must remember the word amok comes from this country and there is a limit to everything,” he said, telling non-Muslims not to make comments or write articles on Islam that could be construed as belittling the religion.

   “I want to remind non-Muslims to refrain from making statements on something they do not understand,” he told reporters at the Parliament lobby after receiving a joint memorandum by a coalition of 43 Muslim non-governmental organisations yesterday.

   “We do not want to take away your rights but religion is an important matter, especially to the Muslims,” he said.

   The memorandum declares the group’s support for the Government’s stand that the Islamic Family Law (Federal Territories) (Amendment) 2005 does not contradict the Syariah Law and does not discriminate against women.

   pemerhati msia, refusing to give his name, coyly claims to be not a Muslim or Malay, but makes the (often Malay) mistake of identifying Muslims with Malays per se, forgetting that there are Indian and Chinese Muslims, too. And Indians have embraced Islam long before the Malays. His ignorance shows who’s the real racist here.

   I don’t know why there are no Malay office bearers in DAP. If I were Teresa, I wouldn’t choose to dignify pemerhati’s anonymous ‘comments’ with an answer (think, people: Why should you talk to someone who won’t identify himself to you? it’s just plain rudeness on that person’s part, isn’t it?). But she might explain why that is so, in the interest of transparency and to win over fence-sitters who are put off by pemerhati’s rudeness but who acknowledge that particular point of his, if nothing else.

   I’m glad Teresa published pemerhati’s ‘comments’. I believe in freedom of expression, and that includes the right to make public how unreasonable one’s arguments and claims are. exposure can work both ways…

   as for pemerhati’s ‘comments’, i just wish i can have his name to link them with.

   pemerhati also chooses to pick on an easy target. like the media that day, picking on some businesswoman who sells nasi campur for a living, when they daren’t pick on dodgy corporate and political barrons like “a-p go lucky” rafidah. pemerhati should be challenging the bn parties. talk about racist. their very foundations already set them out to be that. dare pemerhati issue the challenge to all bn parties, with the same belligerant language and hopefully, with his full name?

   here’s where i’d really love to quote pemerhati’s words, all-caps and all and throw them back at him, but i shall refrain from emulating his childish, petulant position.

   pemerhati sounds like a sour-grapes ex-member of the party (and there are lotsa them, i’m sure). so, apa takut?

   Comment by Sieweng — Wednesday, 05-04-2006 @ 10: 23.41

8. First and foremost, my earlier post was meant for Teresa Kok to answer. Since many claim to be Ms Kok, well… why not…

   You see, this is the whole “image” problem with DAP. How many malays and muslims (to be politically correct) choose to side DAP? Have DAP run an image test and see how people other than the Chinese perceives it? And remember at one point, DAP was trying to get affliated to PAS and KeADILan… why? Is it to join forces to collectively make up big supporter base? So that collectively, as Barisan Alternative, DAP get a chance to be seen and be seen almighty? Answer that yourself. I am just pointing out these issues in case you had not seen them yourself.

   I am no racist because despite the fact that I am no Malay, I speak up for them as well. In fact I speak of their religion as well. How many MALAYSIANs can put aside their own race and religion, and defend the other?

   Just to give you a clear picture: I grew up in a community of different color and religion. I was let loose to mix with other races. I know, “no big deal, we do that too”, you may say… But HONESTLY, if you do put yourself at par with others of a different race, and HONSTLY live in harmony with them, you tend not to be petty with things like not having enough churches, kuils and tokongs…

   True Muhhibbahism means co-existing… Not CO-COMPARING whta you have, what I am deprived of…

   Be honest to yourself: If you are a tokong goer, had you been prevented from doing so? If you are a kuil attendee, have you been denied entry to one? If you attend church, have you been barred from entering? Have you not been given ebough freedom in practising your religion?

   OK, since this is my last posting, let me say this once and for all: You guys (the non-malays, non-muslims) are not thankful enough with what you have. I am a non-malay, and i know you can certainly do better than fret over petty issues like these. Go on man, straighten your lives. DAP looks bad in the eyes of the malays because they (DAP) never appeared to be doing anything for the malays. All they did were having a bunch of chinese parlimentarians shouting at “malay” cabinet ministers… Very quarelsome bunch… BTW, not putting my name here doesn’t mean I am a coward. I just want to remain an observer, and commenting as I see it, irrespective of my ethnic background and faith. I choose to be “neutral” by identity. Some fellow commentators know me personally, and there is no secret to them who I am. But in this environment, I choose to be a neutral rakyat by identity.

   Comment by pemerhati_msia — Wednesday, 05-04-2006 @ 15: 52.22

9. “First and foremost, my earlier post was meant for Teresa Kok to answer. Since many claim to be Ms Kok, well… why not…”

   Freedom of speeh, dear chap. We are entitled to express our opinion. We don’t claim to be Teresa. If u wanna talk to her, buy some flowers and ask her out politely.

   “You see, this is the whole “image” problem with DAP. How many malays and muslims (to be politically correct) choose to side DAP?”

   -Why are u talking about Malay and muslim only? You are just obsessed with Malay and Muslim. How do you get along with non malays an muslim?

   “Have DAP run an image test and see how people other than the Chinese perceives it?”

   Will UMNO also run a test with nonmalays to see how they feel about the party running the country?
   -DAP stated clearly that they are race neutral and running a test like that is inconsistent with their philosophy, anyway.

   “And remember at one point, DAP was trying to get affliated to PAS and KeADILan… why? Is it to join forces to collectively make up big supporter base? So that collectively, as Barisan Alternative, DAP get a chance to be seen and be seen almighty? Answer that yourself. I am just pointing out these issues in case you had not seen them yourself.”
   -DAP left BA coz PAS refused to compromise on setting up an islamic state. Is that what you want? DAP was sticking with their principles and that, my friend, earned my respect. Since DAP pulled out, they won more seats while KeAdilan been drowned out by PAS.

   “I am no racist because despite the fact that I am no Malay, I speak up for them as well. In fact I speak of their religion as well. How many MALAYSIANs can put aside their own race and religion, and defend the other?”

   – If u are not racist by saying malays this and malay that, I don’t know what a racist is. – if you speak for all Malaysian, how come i only read malays and muslim all over your comments? do you sleep talk like this too?
   -how many Malaysian, u say? certainly I have not heard UMNO Youth mentioned anything about helping poor Indians and Chinese whereas Teresa Kok, Lim Guan Eng, Chong Eng and Michael Chong have enxtended their hands to all Malaysians.

   “Just to give you a clear picture: I grew up in a community of different color and religion. I was let loose to mix with other races. I know, “no big deal, we do that too”, you may say… But HONESTLY, if you do put yourself at par with others of a different race, and HONSTLY live in harmony with them, you tend not to be petty with things like not having enough churches, kuils and tokongs…”

   – your last sentence is consistent with your earlier paragraph whereby you mentioned you speak for all Malaysian and their religion. In fact u are belittling places of worships.

   “True Muhhibbahism means co-existing… Not CO-COMPARING whta you have, what I am deprived of…”

   -Get a hold of reality here…look at how difficult and easy to get different type of places of worship and schools…

   “Be honest to yourself: If you are a tokong goer, had you been prevented from doing so? If you are a kuil attendee, have you been denied entry to one? If you attend church, have you been barred from entering? Have you not been given ebough freedom in practising your religion?”

   – just ask these questions to those dedicated and religious people who are trying to get a place of worship built. They are better position to answer. All I can say is that I see many Church being set up above shoplots….why?

   “OK, since this is my last posting, let me say this once and for all: You guys (the non-malays, non-muslims) are not thankful enough with what you have. I am a non-malay, and i know you can certainly do better than fret over petty issues like these.” – go on you racist bigot

   “Go on man, straighten your lives. DAP looks bad in the eyes of the malays because they (DAP) never appeared to be doing anything for the malays. All they did were having a bunch of chinese parlimentarians shouting at “malay” cabinet ministers… ” – u been reading to much state supporting newspaper, er propaganda. the truth is out there.

   “Very quarelsome bunch… BTW, not putting my name here doesn’t mean I am a coward. I just want to remain an observer, and commenting as I see it, irrespective of my ethnic background and faith. I choose to be “neutral” by identity.” – what ever u are, certainly not neutral. I see form yr postings as pro-malay and anti non-malay stance.

   “Some fellow commentators know me personally, and there is no secret to them who I am. But in this environment, I choose to be a neutral rakyat by identity.” – what “environment”? no one here is as unruly and agressive as you. I instead worry you will come and do me up instead. I hope u wouldn’t coz that’s illegal.

   Comment by lee wee tak_ — Thursday, 06-04-2006 @ 08: 42.40

10. pemerhati_msia asked why no malay support DAP. I can think of a few reason:

    1) we Malaysians have not grew out of race base politcal thinking. In fact our main political parties are all race based. DAP is asking for meritcrocy and equality, regardless of race, which requires the Malays to give up certain privillages. Something that Malays will never ever do.

    2) government controlled media always paint a negative picture of DAP, anyway.

    3) The appeal of UMNO and PAS to malays

    UMNO - represent the struggle against colonialism and protector of malay right; later turn into very very promising source of economic opportunities

    PAS - for malays who choose to lead a life dedicated to staunch following of Islam.

    DAP is fighting for some principals unacceptable or incomprehensible to most malays.

    4) DAP have not done enough road shows or campaign relating to membership drive, whether it is due to lack of funds, government restriction on political gathering, their own internal politicing….

    I suppose that’s my 2 cent worth, any comment/criticsim/agreement?

    Comment by lee wee tak_ — Thursday, 06-04-2006 @ 10: 07.13

11. Dear Cowards.

    My family grew up in a rural environment with people of many races and religions including Thais and Orang Asli. Things then were quite different compared to now. The British was still around and about to go. We did not talk about quotas or one race being superior and more priviledged then. No favouritism. The British administration was fair despite our dislike for the colonialists.

    But since independence things have changed. Minority races have been sidelined and their rights as equal citizens slowly eroded. Their way of life too has to be changed. When there is a slight murmur, the minorities are openly threatened with kerises. They are asked to go back to where they came from.

    The coward claims to be a non-Malay which I doubt. But what has he done to ensure that people of other faiths can get approvals to build their places of worship? What has he said or done when our children are asked to dress like Muslims? And so on.

    Non-Malays and non-Muslims have feelings too. They have their rights too as human beings and fellow citizens. But which Malay MP whether he be from UMNO, PAS or Keadilan have really stood up and speak for the non-Malays, non-muslims? All they say and do is to label a SYT like Teresa Kok a ‘muslim-hater’, label Sothinathan and others ‘racists’ and ask the Chinese to ‘go back to Tongsan if you don’t like it here’. The non-Malay BN parties and their MPs have no bolas to stand up and defend their communities. So it is left to the Opposition parties especially the DAP to respond.

    If the coward is a non-Malay as he says he is, then he should emerge from his rat hole and contribute positively to ensure his minority community’s rights and privileges are not eroded further, that there is fairness, understanding and mutual respect, and that these communities, especially his, can flourish with dignity.

    If the coward is a Malay, then he should do what he suggests, do a deep soul searching, empathise with the non-Malay, and consider what you can do to help your minority bretheren live a respectable life with dignity. Stop shouting and bullying others. Be a man.

    Comment by sheriff singh — Thursday, 06-04-2006 @ 12: 44.15

12. Sheriff singh,

    I have said before, and I say it again. I am a non-Malay. I am a non-bumi who realises that I do merempat (squat) on the Malays’ land. Either I stay here quietly and do my own things, or I can head to another country where they will let me (a minority) speak up.

    Wake up man, you guys do live in MALAYsia, not CINAsia or INDIAsia or BAYIsia…. This used to be called TANAH MELAYU. The Melayus are the “owner” of this piece of land. Supposing you are the majority ethnic of your own country, and some foreigners come in and demand that you change things to suit theur racial/religious practices, how do you feel? Look around you today: there are Myanmars, Sri Lankans, Bangladeshis, Indonesians, etc working in our country. They are (till now) the minority. Lets say in 10 years time they grew in number and demand that Malaysia changes its policies to suit them, how do you feel as a MALAYSIAN?

    I am a non-malay, no-bumi but I don’t and wont ask my host to change their ways just for my sake.

    Yes in deed, if you find living under MALAY rule so hard to do, go find a country you feel comfortable in. No body asked that you be born here.

    I am so sorry to break my promise of not posting anymore here but I need to wake you guys up: forget about having equality. It wont happen. And if you keep fighting, you are only frustrating yourselves, and make the chinese look bad in the eyes of the malays. Yes, balik tongsan if you think Malaysia is being unfair to the chinese…

    Was I not right when I said that this so-called religion issue had racial undertones???? Believe me, if it wasn’t racial, DAP wouldn’t have picked it up. That is the nature of DAP.

    Comment by pemerhati_msia — Thursday, 06-04-2006 @ 14: 48.58

13. I am guessing know where pemerhati_msia lives….Tanjung Rambutan

    Comment by lee wee tak_ — Thursday, 06-04-2006 @ 15: 09.00

14. Lee wee Tak, don’t show how shallow you are. BTW, Tanjung Rambutan is quite a well-developed place now. It is no longer the same like before. Do some looking around your country, would you please?

    Comment by pemerhati_msia — Thursday, 06-04-2006 @ 15: 13.45

15. It’s interesting to read about different views. Pemerhati is welcome to this blog to air his views. Don’t go away. If you feel so strongly about your opinions, stay and exchange views. I’m not so easily provoke by your views.
    Too bad this is your last posting.

    Comment by cashanson — Thursday, 06-04-2006 @ 15: 34.11

16. I am not saying TR is a not so well developed place. U dun know what TJ is famous for?—>u r the one that is shallow.

    Ok, no more mud slinging for me down here. I have let myself down talking to u.

    Comment by lee wee tak_ — Thursday, 06-04-2006 @ 16: 08.54

17. Pemerhati_msia,

    Kamu ini pengecut sungguh! Pemikiran kamu ini sama dengan wakil rakyat umno belaka. Sebab mengapa setiap isu yang dibangkit oleh pembangkang itu kamu kaitkan dengan bangsa dan agama. Mu ini jangan segaja nak menuduh parti orang lain rambang kalau kamu tidak faham tentang perjuangan DAP. Kamu ini macam orang ada otak tetapi tak tahu memikir, ada mata tetapi tak nampak. Seperti mana yang kita sedia maklum, DAP adalah parti yang memperjuangkan hak semua rakyat Malaysia, tak kira kaum dan agama. Berani kerana benar, takut kerana salah! Kamu tidak faham ke pandangan yang tidak benar boleh menyinggung perasaan orang lain?

    Comment by orangkampung — Friday, 07-04-2006 @ 06: 14.39

18. I rest my case. Your comments are just out of your frustration. I am a non-Malay, I believe in protecting the rights of race. But I never refuse to ignore that: 1) this is the land of the MALAYS 2) Islam is the official, paramount religion. Call me what you want, I am not hurt or insulted by it. But I pity you guys because you choose to fight for something you know will never be yours.

    Orang kampung, kau cakap melayu ngan aku, kau ingat aku melayu ke? atau kau tak pandai inggeris? Pirahhh! Sekurang-kurangnya, pasai aku pakai otak lah aku pandai pikiaq mana yg patut diperjuangkan, yang mana tak usah buat… keje sia sia tau? Kalu hang Melayu, hang pi cermin muka hang tu… kalau hang bukan melayu, hang cakap macam tu sebab hang dah frust selama ni pejuangan hang sia-sia. Hang nak lawan depa melayu, hang ingat hang siapa? Kata marah, bodoh… (hang kalau pandai pikiaq, hang terbalikkan ayat terakhir tu, hang pikiaq apa maksud dia). Aku bukan nak singgung perasaan orang lain, aku cuma bagi pandangan supaya orang dapat nampak dari sudut yang lain… Aku slalu campur bangsa-bangsa lain, pasai tu aku paham isu ni.

    Comment by pemerhati_msia — Monday, 10-04-2006 @ 10: 50.33

19. For the nth time, Islam is not the “official, paramount religion”. It’s the religion of the federation, the religion of the majority. That’s all. What the heck is an “official” religion? That means the rest are unofficial religions, i.e. not valid/underground/hush-hush? Pemerhati reserves the right to be delusional, but at least he should get his facts right. Look up the constitution and the background of how it was drafted. Again, he reveals the typical mistake most arrogant Malays make, i.e. assuming that this is Malay land, as if there were/are no indigenous (their very name places them first on this land) people who’ve lived off this land long before the Malays. He earlier claimed he was not a racist, but now he claims to “believe in protecting the rights of race”, whatever that means. Pemerhati should continue having his say. The more he talks, the more he reveals the contradictions of what he says about himself and what he really is, even though he may try to hide it behind his anonymity. Especially laughable is his claim that it was going to be his last posting. Er… how many times is “last” mean one ah?

    Comment by Sieweng — Tuesday, 11-04-2006 @ 01: 13.56

20. p.s. a truly non-racist person would acknowledge the human rights of all, regardless of race, creed, colour, sex… this ethnocentricity is illogical. we all are made up of the same sub-atomic particles. life can be taken away from us, snuffed out like a light, anytime, anywhere. the universe is so, so, so, much bigger than us. a truly non-racist person would dispute the concept of land belonging to any one ethnic group. there’s only one earth. and we all have the right to be here. anywhere. god or the creator gave us the right. gave us life. did you ever learn biology? the miracle of life? why are our minds so puny that we cannot look beyond the diversity of people and see all as pure human beings who share this planet and wonderful existence called life?

    Comment by Sieweng — Tuesday, 11-04-2006 @ 01: 25.52

21. Sieweng,

    Last means the final… But since so many out there REFUSE to accept simple facts, I had no choice but to clarify more. I am sorry, but I had the responsibility to make clear what others are so unclear of.

    Official religion means Islam is observed in ANY state functions and in all official matters. Period. Still can’t understand or REFUSE to understand?

    Look at those Chinese in Singapore… That is is exactly what the Malays fear Chinese will do to Malaysia. Don’tknow or REFUSE to understand what that means? Where have you been, dude?

    OK, lets restate my meaning here (as simple as I could put it so that you don’t have to over strain your brains trying to DECODE it): This is MALAYSIA. The ADOPTED and OFFICIAL religion is ISLAM, the MAJORITY of citizens are MALAYs. Understand? Or REFUSE to understand? or REFUSE to ACCEPT facts? I rest my case.

    Comment by pemerhati_msia — Wednesday, 12-04-2006 @ 10: 33.12

22. I have worked in Singapore and know some malays there. The Malays that I know are:
    1) hard working
    2) forward thinking
    3) refuse to assume a subsidy mentality

    A pakcik who I met at Isetan Orchard even said that he is “malu” with the Malays accross the Tebrau Straits for relying on government handouts and not workingo ut ontheir own like malays in Singapore. He went to his relatives house in Johor and was appalled by the workmanship of their house too.

    I went to a factory where there were 4 malays running the plant which produces mulit-million Singapore Dollars worth of products and supervising hordes of workers. One malay is from melaka and he told me that he would not want to return to malaysia.

    I am not making this up.

    “Look at those Chinese in Singapore… That is is exactly what the Malays fear Chinese will do to Malaysia” – well the malays that I met seems to meet what our politcl leaders say “towering malay”. What do the malays in singapore have to fear?

    The singapore government ensure there is sufficient quotes for malay as minority in HDB and there ar also malay ministers in the government. In theor case, it is majority subsidies the minority, the malaysia it is the other way round.

    “But I never refuse to ignore that: 1) this is the land of the MALAYS 2) Islam is the official, paramount religion.”

    You are a malay, despite what you claim as a non-malay. You keep on contradicting yourself, just like those UMNO politicians….continue to scream that you are non-malay, no one here believes you.

    Now are you a muslim then?

    Comment by lee wee tak_ — Thursday, 13-04-2006 @ 07: 19.52

23. Pemerhati is back to shouting again. As if that’ll force people to accept his “facts”.
    The Malay Malaysian fear of becoming like Malay Singaporeans is irrational because – fact: Malays are the dominant ethnic group in Malaysia so there’s no way the Chinese can enforce their will and rule Malaysia like the way they rule Singapore. Here, not only do the Chinese lose out in terms of numbers, they are not even proportionally represented in the civil service (though that’s not the correct solution, either. Merit should be the basis of everything we do). If the Malays really think they are in danger of becoming like their Singapore brethrens as Pemerhati believes, then their paranoia will screw them in the global world, for sure.
    Yes, I refuse to accept the prevailing assumption that Islam is the “official” religion. This is a secular state, as per the constitution, no matter what Dr M had said; ergo, religion, as a personal faith, has no place in state governance. There is no cause nor reason for us to observe Islamic rituals in state affairs.

    Comment by Sieweng — Thursday, 13-04-2006 @ 10: 57.25

24. I pity all the Chinese in Malaysia. They are ALL pathetic to the core. Lee Wee Tak, you too, refuse to accept the fact that I am non-Malay. If you can refuse this fact,am I suprised that you refuse other facts? Get real. I am a non-Malay, a realist and I accept my faith in a land my race doesn’t own. I can make such comment because I can face the truth. I don’t lie to myself that my race has equal rights to the Malays. In fact, modestly speaking, non-Malays are guests on this Malay land and that means, we abide to what the Malays choose to practice. I reckon you are Chinese (Siewing and Wee Tak), you are free to find a land where the Chinese will be regarded as equal. Live there, make your fortune there, since Malaysia cannot give you that. As for me, I know I am just a guest. I do not overshadow or put as peer, my host (the Malays). I do not dream that my race will be recognised as equals by the Malays. There is no way that is going to happen. I accept the truth. You can fight all that you want but I know the outcome…

    Comment by pemerhati_msia — Thursday, 13-04-2006 @ 12: 57.57

25. those two police women should be well condemned…..

    Comment by nasser — Thursday, 13-04-2006 @ 15: 10.12

26. kepada semua, setiap kamu mempunyai pendapat pendapat pendirian sendiri. mungkin ada dikalangan kamu/mereka yang tidak berminat untuk menyuara tentang perkara perkara seperti begini. tak ada gunanya kalau menentang seseorang yang hanya mementingkan pendiriannya sendiri. mereka juga mempunyai hak untuk menyuara pendapat mereka. biarkanlah. tak ada manfa’at kalau kamu menentang mereka, sebab mereka berfikiran begitu.

    kata kata oleh Pak Idrus

    Friends.. Since blogging came our way a few years ago, the number of Malaysian Blogs have increased beyond expectation. As I had said time and again for Malaysian, blogging is a godsend tools for them to share their thoughts with other Malaysian and the world as well. Before Blogging, an evolution of the internet there are no other ways for Malaysian to share their thoughts that wide..Of course there are other venues like the local newspapers but than the space are limited and are subjected of been edited before publishing..With blogging anyone could post their thoughts in any subjects they choose and it is only up to them to be wise in using the freedom of expression, so as not to get into trouble with the authority…Freedom of expression in Malaysia is not the same as in the west for we have a history that we have to take into account, lest we would be caught in areas that we are not allowed to touch or as yet be allowed to dwell with for now. We are a multi racial, multi religious and multicultural country. A situation we inherit from the colonial master. It is a reality and we should not lament on it. We all should accept it as our assets rather then liabilities. For varieties are the essence of life. Making it more colorful as ever. We are a very young country, just forty nine years old, and in history forty nine years is a very short time indeed…Given the time and the kind of pace that we are developing, we would all surely get what we want especially in that so called freedom of speech. In the word of an advertiser Malaysia truly Asia, let us be proud of what we are… Time would tell…

    Our founding father choose to create a secular multi racial country of what Malaysia is today. And no one could change that…There are elements in the society like all societies are, who are trying to create their own type of culture in the country but as we know too well that culture is something that evolve and not created. Blogging is part of the tool that would help to contribute toward that process of cultural development. With blogging and the borderless world of the internet dissemination of information have never been that easy. In a way Blogging get more exposures than even the mainstream Malaysian Newspapers. I try not to write on politic or religion but because these two factors are part and parcel of our daily life,I have from time to time do write on these subjects. Otherwise my posting are just my journal of the happening in my life as I journey on in my golden age. Today young Malaysian of my children’s generation have taken to blogging like duck to the water and a few have gone beyond the imagination of my generation, gone to places that no Malaysian have gone before in pursue of the freedom of speech. Blogging have given us that freedom to share our thoughts as we like it and in the way we like it done..

    For visitors to my blog, here are some blogs that have makes waves in not only in the Malaysian scene but the world as well..From the little that I know of the writers of these blogs, are Young Malaysian with grade education, intelligent, well articulate and care much about this beloved country Malaysia…In a way they are a sort of patriots.. Remember the pen is still mightier then the sword…Here are a few of the blogs that I visit from time to time: Brand new Malaysian, Screenshots.., Aisehman, Politics 101 Malaysia, Volume of Interactions There are others of course and I shall introduce it all in due course…In the meantime do visit this blogs if you want to understand how these new generation of Malaysian think of their country Malaysia… Remember these Malaysian Bloggers are children born after independence in 1957 and because of the country political and economic stability they have managed to get a better education than that of my generation. I am indeed proud that my generation have directly or indirectly produce these generation of Malaysian, the generation of my children…

    All throughout out my career with the government I have directly or indirectly involved in social engineering programs of the country and know very well that in social engineering that are no given formula to follow…We create programs for social changes and today in a way that programs have produce result..In that Malaysian like these bloggers are part of the continuing process of the social change that are happening in this country. My generations who pioneered the road toward a better Malaysia have done our job and now it is the time of these generation of Malaysian to do their…Some might like what they are doing and some might not but that is normal in a country. This country have develop faster than any other countries in this region to become today a country that have provide for its people more than what our founder promised some fifty years ago. The first Prime Minister Tunku Abdul Rahman promise us…This is what He say in one of his famous speech in the early days of our independence…” We would provide housing not barrack, food instead of rations and clothing instead of uniform “.. In less then fifty years we all got more then we were promised. Of course we want more. That is the human in us. Being human is nothing wrong…

    The Ministry of Information Malaysia who now have a new Leadership in the form of a veteran journalist with vast experiences in politic, surely would want to know and get feedback from the ordinary Malaysian as to what are the thinking of the Malaysian at large and what better ways are there then these blogs, written by Malaysian with Malaysian centric in their approach. These bloggers are sons and daughters of this beloved country. We call Malaysia. Nation building have never been easy, surely inputs from these bloggers would do more good than harm. Let do it in the spirit of Malaysia Boleh!

    from another writer,
    SATURDAY, APRIL 01, 2006
    Bahasa dan pengucapan, Hishamuddin Rais

    Saya menolak konsep Bahasa Melayu/Bahasa Malaysia sebagai bahasa kebangsaan. Saya juga menolak konsep Bahasa Melayu sebagai bahasa perantaraan. Pada ketika ini saya mengajukan bahawa Bahasa Melayu sebagai bahasa strategik untuk perubahan. Konsep bahasa strategik ini adalah tahap yang paling awal dalam usaha menggalang dan menggembelingkan tenaga untuk melahirkan negara bangsa.

    Konsep negara bangsa ini juga adalah konsep yang baru. Untuk Tanah Melayu konsep ini wujud sebagai pengalaman sesudah dilanda zaman kolonial. Kekitaan yang diwujudkan melalui bahasa juga bermula apabila manusia Melayu mula berkenal dengan ‘orang lain’ yang dibawa masuk oleh penjajah ke Tanah Melayu.

    Justeru, Bahasa Malaysia sebagai bahasa kebangsaan untuk saya tidak memiliki apa-apa makna yang tepat. Malah dalam konteks politik Malaysia hari ini konsep kebangsaan itu juga perlu dilihat, dirombak untuk dinilai kembali. Saya mengasaskan pandangan ini kerana saya berkongsi pandangan yang diasaskan oleh ahli falsafah Perancis Ernest Renan yang mengajukan konsep negara bangsa dalam satu ucapannya di Universiti Sorbonne pada tahun 1882.

    Pandangan-pandangan awal tentang negara bangsa berasaskan konsep yang diajukan oleh para pemikir dari Jerman. Negara bangsa dari pemikiran Jerman ini berasaskan genetik, darah keturunan, kaum, kesamaan bahasa dan budaya. Saya menolak pandangan ini. Pandangan negara bangsa berjenis ini telah melahirkan negara fasis seperti Jerman dan Jepun. Konsep negara bangsa seperti ini telah melahirkan pembantaian bangsa-bangsa seperti yang terjadi di antara Tutsi dan Hutu atau seperti yang dialami pada tahun 1969 di Malaysia.

    Justeru, saya lebih bersetuju untuk menerima pandangan yang diajukan oleh Renan bahawa negara bangsa dilahirkan melalui ikatan sosial/social contract di mana para warga tidak semestinya dari kaum atau darah yang sama tetapi bersetuju untuk hidup bersama; berkongsi pengalaman yang lalu, yang kini dan yang akan datang melalui pengucapan bahasa dan budaya yang sama.

    Untuk saya ketika ini, tidak wujud Bangsa Malaysia justeru tidak juga wujud Bahasa Malaysia. Dua konsep ini adalah omong-omong kosong dari para politikus yang bukan hanya tidak dapat menilai diri malah mereka gagal untuk memahami kenyataan hakiki yang sedia wujud di hadapan mata. Asas-asas awal dan kemungkinan-kemungkinan cerah untuk melahirkan negara bangsa Malaysia yang TIDAK berasaskan kaum, darah dan keturunan pernah wujud pada satu detik sejarah. Era pencerahan ini muncul ketika rakyat semua bangsa bangun berjuang untuk menghalau penjajah British dari Tanah Melayu.

    Tetapi, arus perkembangan sosiopolitik dalam masa hampir dua generasi yang lalu telah menunjukkan bahawa cita-cita awal negara bangsa Malaysia ini telah hampir lupus. Dua puluh dua tahun di bawah kuku besi Mahathir Muhamad projek untuk melahirkan negara bangsa Malaysia telah gagal lagi meleset. Pemisahan-pemisahan bangsa-bangsa telah diatur secara terancang atau secara tidak tersengaja. Pemisahan bangsa-bangsa ini telah dilembagakan.

    Lembaga-lembaga daulah telah diwujudkan bukan untuk penyatuan bangsa-bangsa tetapi untuk di pisah-pisah agar senang untuk diperintah. Ada lembaga yang diwujudkan berlandaskan ketuanan Melayu, ada yang berselubung di bawah jubah Islam. Ada pula yang dilembagakan berlandaskan kepentingan politik kepartian untuk memastikan pemilikan kuasa ekonomi dan politik.

    Hasil dari pengamatan saya, ini dikuatkan pula dengan pengalaman; saya berpendapat projek untuk melahirkan negara bangsa ini wajib melangkah ke belakang sekali lagi. Mengundur ke belakang bukan kepada tahun sifar tetapi kepada tahap awal untuk menerima konsep Bahasa Melayu sebagai bahasa strategik untuk perubahan sosial.

    Pandangan saya ini berpandukan keilmiahan bahawa politik di Malaysia pada hari ini hanya dapat diubah, dirombak atau diperbaiki oleh manusia Melayu. Ini adalah hakikat politik yang saintifik. Di Malaysia dalam konteks politik hari ini, hanya manusia Melayu sahaja yang berupaya mewujudkan satu perjanjian sosial baru yang berlandaskan demokrasi dan keadilan untuk semua. Sesiapa yang memiliki pandangan yang bertentangan dengan hakikat ini saya cadangkan mereka pergi menjadi pemandu teksi di Baghdad sebelum mempelajari ilmu perubahan sosial.

    Sayugia diingati bahawa pandangan strategik ini juga telah pernah digunapakai dengan jayanya oleh Jepun dan British semasa menjajah Tanah Melayu. Jepun menggudam orang Cina ketika melanggar dan menakluki Tanah Melayu. British menganggap seorang gerila Melayu anti British lebih berharga dari sepuluh orang gerila Cina. Ini hakikat yang wajib difahami. Garis pentadbiran strategik kuasa kolonial British telah berjaya mengendalikan empayar yang mencakupi tiga suku bumi ini. Kita perlu belajar dari sejarah orang-orang yang terdahulu dari kita. Justeru, konsep Bahasa Melayu sebagai bahasa strategik untuk perubahan bukan sesuatu yang baru.

    Pada tahun lalu saya telah dijemput ke satu persidangan/seminar. Antara kertas kerja yang dibincangkan ialah menilai kembali dan melihat kenapa golongan progresif, kaum kiri dan parti-parti yang non-racial telah gagal dalam projek politik mereka. Mereka telah gagal untuk melahirkan sebuah Malaysia yang demokratik yang tidak berasaskan perkauman. Malaysia telah gagal untuk menjadi negara bangsa yang tidak melaga-laga antara Melayu, India, Cina dan bangsa yang lain.

    Seminar yang saya hadiri ini bukanlah satu seminar akademik. Ianya lebih mendekati kepada seminar politik kepartian. Untuk saya, segala bentuk perbincangan dari pelbagai jalur pemikiran adalah satu latihan yang sihat. Perbincangan terbuka secara demokratik yang bersandarkan keilmuan adalah perlu dalam proses mengumpul pengalaman. Ketika sesi membincangkan – Kenapa Golongan Progresif Gagal- saya terpaksa ketawa mengikat. Saya rasa persoalan yang ditimbulkan itu lebih seram lagi menyeramkan dari lawak bodoh Senario.

    Perbincangan ini berpusing-pusing, gagal mencari punca kegagalan mereka. Satu demi satu politikus dan pemikir cuba mengajukan pandangan. Seperti biasa, British dilihat sebagai sebab utama. Persongkongkolan kaum feudal Melayu juga dilihat sebagai punca. Pembelotan para pemimpin juga adalah hujah yang masuk akal.

    Tetapi, sebenarnya jawapan kenapa mereka gagal, keluar dari mulut mereka sendiri. Tajuk seminar ini sebenarnya – Why The Progresives Left Failed in Malaysia. Untuk saya, jawapannya cukup senang. Para politikus, pemikir politik dan aktivis Ngo yang mengaku diri mereka progresif ini tidak memiliki bahasa pengucapan yang strategik. Mereka tidak menggunakan Bahasa Melayu. Mereka berucap, bertutur, menulis dalam Bahasa Inggeris – kadang-kadang bahasa Inggeris yang digunakan ini juga turut sama menjadi porak peranda.

    ”They are not connected with the very people they wanted to change.” (Saya menulis ayat ini agar mereka dapat memahami apa yang saya ingin katakan). Pengucapan bahasa yang bukan bahasa Melayu dalam konteks perubahan sosial di Malaysia samalah seperti saya berkhutbah di Iraq dengan menggunakan bahasa Tamil. Atau sama seperti saya melakukan satu gerakan sosial di Paris dengan pengucapan bahasa Rusia.

    Dalam konteks politik hari ini, Bahasa Melayu sebagai bahasa strategik untuk perubahan sosial tidak seharusnya menimbulkan persoalan nasionalisma sempit Melayu atau persoalan agenda ketuanan Melayu. Pekara-pekara seperti ini hanya akan ditimbulkan oleh kumpulan, parti-parti politik dan individu yang tidak mahu manusia Melayu berubah. Mereka yang tidak mahu mengakui Bahasa Melayu sebagai bahasa strategik ini kerana mereka ingin manusia Melayu terus bonsai fikrah mereka.

    Mereka akan cuba membalingkan kaca dan paku di atas lantai politik manusia Melayu yang ingin merubah negara ini. Mereka juga akan mengeluarkan hujah yang muluk-muluk tentang kepelbagaian bahasa yang mana akhirnya bahasa Inggeris akan digunakan. Ini dilakukan kerana kumpulan berjenis ini cukup sedar bahawa selagi manusia Melayu berfikrah bonsai dan bermimpi dalam dunia hak keistimewaan mereka selagi itulah cukong-cukong ini dapat terus merampok kekayaan negara ini.

    Pada ketika ini, menerima Bahasa Melayu sebagai bahasa strategik untuk perubahan sosial dalam negara ini adalah asas pertama. Asas ini wajib diterima oleh para aktivis politik, para aktivis Ngo dan untuk sesiapa sahaja yang ingin melakukan satu rombakan sosial. Sekali imbas, kelihatan apa yang saya ajukan ini seperti tidak perlu ditimbulkan. Atau seperti kata Mao memukul anjing yang telah mati.

    Tetapi dalam pengalaman saya, kemerosotan penggunaan bahasa strategik ini cukup terserlah terutama dalam kumpulan-kumpulan Ngo yang semakin dilihat syok sendiri berputar-putar dan berpusing-pusing dalam penggunaan bahasa Inggeris dalam rangka kerja dan selebaran mereka. Kumpulan-kumpulan inilah yang paling amat sibuk dalam agenda perubahan sosial mereka.

    Kerana itu saya ingin bertanya apakah Mak Cik dari Felda Taib Andak dapat membaca ”The Human Rights Report of Suaram”. Atau membaca falsafah Jerman dalam bahasa Inggeris dari Pusat Pengucapan Terkangkang. Saya rasa kumpulan ini masih belum dapat memahami makna Bahasa Melayu sebagai bahasa strategik untuk perubahan. Mereka belum dapat merentas dari Petaling Jaya ke Kampung Kerinchi. Jauh sekali selebaran pengucapan mereka untuk difahami di Benut. Hakikatnya Mak Cik Felda dan Mak Cik dari Benut inilah kunci yang akan membawa perubahan sosial dalam negara ini.

    Ketelengan dan kejulingan penggunaan bahasa strategik ini telah diampuhkan oleh arus globalisasi. Secara terancang badan-badan pengeluar dana telah memesongkan kesedaran dan kesucian hati nurani anak-anak muda dalam negara kita ini untuk melakukan pembelotan dengan meninggalkan bahasa strategik ini. Ini samalah seperti projek Rumsfeld yang menggalakkan anak-anak muda Iraq untuk meninggalkan AK47 dan pergi mengundi.

    Untuk saya, selagi tidak difahami dan dihayati konsep Bahasa Melayu sebagai bahasa strategik untuk perubahan maka kita akan terus gagal untuk melahirkan satu negara bangsa yang demokratik dan adil. Jika manusia Melayu terus gagal memahami apa yang kita ingin sampaikan kerana kita tidak menggunakan pengucapan yang mereka gunakan, maka ini bererti selama ini kita hanyalah terpancut di atas perut. Gagal melahirkan generasi baru.

    Comment by burn — Friday, 14-04-2006 @ 01: 30.25

27. So what I am a chinese? I don’t give a @%$# about what’s your race and opinion anymore pemerhati-msia. If you acept your fate, supposedly, it is your business.

    Other people have their own say so you just have to live with the fact that different people have different opinion.

    I wonder if you have friends in real life, if you should persist with this manner where you deem your opinion is the only right one.

    Non-malay are guests here? Mahathir, no less, spoke in a forum for malay improvement in kedah last month that chinese pays the most taxes and contributed the most to the malaysian economiy. if you read the sun or sin chew jit poh, you would have picked up the report.

    Like it nor not, we are not guests in malaysia. we have citizenship, we pay taxes and we hold malaysian passport.

    You speak like a 1940’s malay ultra. Get real and face the fact. We are malaysians and we have our rights as our citizen. If malays want to continue with this subsidy mentality & relying on government handout (read tax payers’ money), it would only be to their detriment whereas those who do not enjoy such easy way out, tend to fight harder.

    Comment by lee wee tak_ — Friday, 14-04-2006 @ 09: 01.59

28. Oh yes, chinese and Indians are guest in Malaysia? Then What do you make of Ling Liong Sik, Samy Vellu, Ng Keng Yik, Ong Ka Ting etc who are in the cabinet?
    What about Lee Chong Wei, Foo Kok Keong, S Kuhan, Soh Chin Aun, Santokh Singh, Nicol David who makes malaysian flag flow proudly in international sports arena?

    Think about it.

    Comment by lee wee tak_ — Friday, 14-04-2006 @ 09: 05.01

29. Wee tak,

    You wrote: “So what I am a chinese? I don’t give a @%$# about what’s your race and opinion anymore pemerhati-msia.”

    Seven (7) paragraphs to contardict yourself? Ha ha ha…

    Comment by pemerhati_msia — Friday, 14-04-2006 @ 09: 54.51

30. pemerhati_msia,

    Since you are neutral there is no point for you to present your neutral view here.

    Yes you are the majority, but that doesn’t meant we will not fight our basic human right, someday-somehow my lad…..you will know when the day comes…someday somehow….!!

    I believe, now’s the time you to make your peace with GOD , my lad !!

    Comment by Vigilante_2020 — Wednesday, 06-09-2006 @ 21: 55.06

31. Maybe some people like pemerhati should go back to his/her country of origin. Since he/she feels that he/she is just a guest here, why are you still in Malaysia? Since Malay here don’t welcome you, balik-loh. Forsake your citizenship right now, if you ever had one. Your country of origin welcome you back-mah. They will not treat you as guest. Why, because you and your ancestors are from there-mah. So what for feel scare to go balik kampung. Malaysia and the Malay don’t want you here. Because it’s their land-mah, remember?

    Comment by JL — Tuesday, 12-09-2006 @ 21: 57.02

32. Permerhati started off by accusing DAP of racism and instead ended up sounding more racist than Teresa Kok.

    Maintaining that he/she is not a Malay, is ‘neutral’; just here to offer some sound advice to his/her non-Malay friends on how to behave as guests in their host country. Sounds like a well meaning advice but the passion behind the words used seems to be designed to provoke a confrontation…

    Dear Pemerhati, I am afraid you need to look within yourself and reflect deeply on what you have written. If you are a GOD fearing person, pray that HE gives you the strength to be TOLERANT… Pray for HUMILITY… so that you will not be lost in life’s unending cycle of happiness and disaster.

    Comment by lkt56 — Saturday, 23-09-2006 @ 02: 30.08

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